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Letter: The Ambassador Camillo Gonsalves saga: The long and short of it
Published on April 10, 2012Email To Friend    Print Version

Dear Sir:

Anyone with any sense of or at least some knowledge of foreign affairs, will know Israel is one of the most hated nations in the middle eastern world (some will differ with me and say in the entire world) and this country shares borders with countries that hate them (Israel) severely.

Even worse than that, Israel is in a part of the world that sees every nation, save for about two exceptions, hold strong feelings of anger, resentment and hate for and against them. As a result, citizens and residents of Israel have to live each day in fear of terrorist threats. Unfortunately for their diplomatic envoys and embassies worldwide, they too have to function in their capacity on foreign soil, with the same level of fear as people on their home front.

When one is offered and accepts an ambassadorial posting of a country, or holds any diplomatic posting of any kind, one is expected at all time to associate with people of good repute and act and speak as your posting demands. You are no longer representing yourself -- your opinions, ideals, aspirations and dreams must take a back seat to those of your country, if they in any way conflict with those of your mission or that which your post has entrusted to you. One is expected to behave like a statesman, carry oneself with specific decorum and behave with a level of diplomacy that can bring credit and respect to your country.

We have seen how activities in the private life of Kobe Bryant and Tiger Woods caused them to lose their lucrative endorsements for being poor ambassadors of the brand they represented. How much more important are the responsibilities, the role and the sacrifice one is asked to make when one has such high calling, which involves representing a nation and all its people.

We all know the St Vincent and the Grenadines diplomatic mission to the United Nations (UN) occupies the same building that houses the Israeli mission to the UN. And the NYPD has its hands full with keeping all of the missions that are housed in that building safe. The question that must be answered is this: was Ambassador Gonsalves found in violation of breaching the security of the building?

The ambassador made it clear that his point of entry was a point that he uses on a regular basis without any complication; he also pointed out the Israeli ambassador also uses that route to get to and from his office. Not once did I ever hear Ambassador Camillo Gonsalves declare that he was entering the building through the official point of entry. Is this a case of: I am accustomed doing the wrong thing and no one had ever corrected me before, so no one has the right to correct me now?

As a matter of fact, the ambassador, or anyone who uses that building for official or business purposes should not, on a regular basis, be using any other route to enter or exit that edifice, other than via those that are officially earmarked for the purpose. Exception could be made in the cases of great urgency and, even then, the appropriate declarations and permissions should be made and granted before doing so.

From dwelling and holding a diplomatic post in the United Nations headquarters in New York City, young Gonsalves has to know how sensitive the issue of security is as it relates to terrorism in this city. He should be aware how overly sensitive the US government, more so New York City is about the protection of members of the Jewish community and anything that has to do with Israel.

When Ambassador Gonsalves breached the security of that building by removing the security barriers that were put in place to direct pedestrian traffic, when he failed to acknowledge and refused to comply with the on-duty police officer’s instructions, he was putting the entire building and all of the foreign missions that conduct business there (including himself) in danger. That is a chance the on-duty officer could not take, should not take and did not take.

Ambassador Gonsalves must realize he is not in St Vincent and the Grenadines, where security is not a real concern and anything goes; where his father holds the title deed to the piece of real estate that is St Vincent and the Grenadines; a place where he will be awarded certain courtesies based on facial recognition.

On the matter of diplomatic immunity, it is true that most diplomats are immune from arrest and prosecution by the law enforcement agencies of the host country. It is also true that the official posting of Camillo Gonsalves as ambassador so awards him that privilege. It will be important to note this does not mean that people who are protected by such immunities cannot be arrested and prosecuted. In order to do so, however, the host nation has to follow specific diplomatic protocol and receive permission from the offending diplomat’s government to proceed with such actions.

It is also important to note that, when a diplomat’s actions are so severe that the host government requests permission to prosecute one of their immune diplomats, refusal may very well result in the expulsion of the offending diplomat from the host nation and strain diplomatic relations between both countries.

On Camillo Gonsalves’ arrest, when Gonsalves was stopped, his liberty taken away and he was placed in handcuffs, he was not Ambassador Camillo Gonsalves, permanent representative of St Vincent and the Grenadines to the United Nations. To the officer he was just an unknown man, possibly a terrorist, who had breached the security for which he was responsible. When the suspect (Ambassador Camillo Gonsalves) was positively identified and he was verified as one having lawful rights to enter and exit that building to conduct business on his country’s behalf and the level of his posting afforded him certain privileges, one of which was immunity from arrest, he was immediately released.

Ambassador Gonsalves’ immunity privileges do not make his action right and the police officer’s action wrong. It does not matter how embarrassing this event was: Ambassador Camillo Gonsalves must come to the conclusion his actions were wrong and constitute a serious criminal offence under the anti terror legislation. Many men have been arrested, charged, tried and convicted for lesser offence than that which Ambassador Gonsalves inadvertently committed. This young man must also accept the fact that the police officer acted within the scope of his authority based on the information he was exposed to and that makes his actions right, legal and lawful.

There is no doubt that there is an issue of racial prejudice existing within the ranks of the dominantly white NYPD; however, it was unfortunate that Ambassador Gonsalves, in his interviews, tried to play the race card by identifying the race of the officer as being white. Even if the officer’s actions were racially motivated, because Ambassador Gonsalves used a regularly used but unofficial route to enter the building and because he did not follow the protocol where identifying oneself is concerned when entering a high security risk area, he will have to suck salt on the issue of race on this one. We are no stranger to the world of arrests, so let’s count our losses and move on with life.

I know of and I have had some several negative experiences dealing with members of the New York City Police Department; I have undisputed documentation of several of the run-ins that can bring disrepute to this institution. However, when it comes to the “official” word of the NYPD (not a single or a few officers), I will take the NYPD’s words over Camillo Gonsalves’ words any day. I do not know Camillo personally, but the acorn does not fall to far from the tree. It is sad that I have judge this young man’s actions base on the public behaviour of the father; but when you understand family dynamics as it relates to the influences, transmission and the adoption of parental behaviour as I do, you will understand my position.

It is important to note that the outer perimeter and the inside of this building are littered with high tech surveillance cameras which are controlled by a state of the art security operational system. So there is no hiding the truth. There is no doubt that the administration would have reviewed the footage of the incident before replying to the claims of an international representative before making a media release.

Allan Palmer
 
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Comments:

Ricardo Francis:

There are some of us who believe we are above the law and should not be questioned by anyone below our rank and this is an example of same.

Allan you have delivered very objectionable views on this situation and should be endorsed, accordingly.

Where is Simon Anderson? Has he disappeared?

I have heard that this was intended as political publicity since the senior Gonsalves has visions of making his son prime Minister and that a constituency has already been marked for his return. There is more than what the eyes can see in this particular situation. Strategically speaking, it can be argued that the grand vision of Ralph did not anticipate the situation to unfold in this capacity, so far. I will say this again: there will be a Prime Minister Ricardo Francis before a Camillo Gonsalves. Prime Ministership is not a hand-me down.

Simon Anderson:

THE DUNCE RICARDO FRANCIS is asking where I am regarding a letter written on April 10th...AND TODAY IS APRIL 10TH!

RICARDO FRANCIS' ignorance seems to know no bounds!

Where are you RICARDO? Still studying to pass your second year in Law School after thirty years of not being able to pass them?


Simon Anderson:

SO ALLAN PALMER STILL REFUSES TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE MASSIVE LIE HE TOLD ON JUNE 30TH, 2011 ON THIS VERY FORUM!

PALMER, how could you be so dense?

Do you expect anyone to take you seriously when you cannot even defend yourself because of the tremendous lie you wrote in an effort to fool the reading public.

PALMER, quite plainly...YOU ARE A LIAR!

PALMER, don't you know that an Ambassador is immune from arrest?

John:

Allan,

I am not in a position to determine who is right or wrong in this situation but i want to ask a few questions based on statements made in your artical which i hope you or any other reader can answer for me.

Statement 1 -- "We all know the St Vincent and the Grenadines diplomatic mission to the United Nations (UN) occupies the same building that houses the Israeli mission to the UN. And the NYPD has its hands full with keeping all of the missions that are housed in that building safe".

Question 1 -- Is the security of the missions housed in the building under the purview of the NYPD or owners of the said building?
Question 2 -- If your above statement is correct, why don't the NYPD assign a police officer from the NYPD to each ambassador, diplomat or equivalent?

Statement 2 - The ambassador made it clear that his point of entry was a point that he uses on a regular basis without any complication; he also pointed out the Israeli ambassador also uses that route to get to and from his office. Not once did I ever hear Ambassador Camillo Gonsalves declare that he was entering the building through the official point of entry.

Question 1 -- Did at any point the NYPD or any other official indicate that his usual point of entry was contrary to standard protocol?

Statement 3 -- As a matter of fact, the ambassador, or anyone who uses that building for official or business purposes should not, on a regular basis, be using any other route to enter or exit that edifice, other than via those that are officially earmarked for the purpose.

Question 1 -- Is your statement above your own opinion or is it an extract from the official security policy/protocol of the building security team? If not, how did you arrive at this statement?
Question 2 -- What do you mean by "on a regular basis"? Can it be quantified?

Statement 4 - When Ambassador Gonsalves breached the security of that building by removing the security barriers that were put in place to direct pedestrian traffic, when he failed to acknowledge and refused to comply with the on-duty police officer's instructions, he was putting the entire building and all of the foreign missions that conduct business there (including himself) in danger.

Question 1 -- Was the on-duty police officer assigned to the security detail for the mission or was he on a routine patrol?
Question 2 -- What jurisdiction if any does the "on-duty police officer" has on the compound?

Statement 5 - Ambassador Gonsalves' immunity privileges do not make his action right and the police officer's action wrong. It does not matter how embarrassing this event was: Ambassador Camillo Gonsalves must come to the conclusion his actions were wrong and constitute a serious criminal offence under the anti terror legislation.

Question 1 -- Can you state the law here and what sections of the law did he broke?
Question 2 -- Didn't the same police officer broke the law by trespassing?

Statement 6 - Even if the officer's actions were racially motivated, because Ambassador Gonsalves used a regularly used but unofficial route to enter the building and because he did not follow the protocol where identifying oneself is concerned when entering a high security risk area,

Question 1 -- Upon entering the building of the mission, who is the ambassador suppose to clear with before proceeding, the NYPD officer or the security personal responsible on duty in the building?
Question 2 -- If your answer is the security personal on duty in the building, then who actually broke protocol ?

Statement 7 - I know of and I have had some several negative experiences dealing with members of the New York City Police Department; I have undisputed documentation of several of the run-ins that can bring disrepute to this institution. However, when it comes to the "official" word of the NYPD (not a single or a few officers), I will take the NYPD's words over Camillo Gonsalves' words any day.

Question 1 -- Putting personal feelings aside, can you validate how yourself or any right thinking individual can arrive at such a position?

Grateful if i can get a response since i like to engage in meaningful discussions.

Silence on this matter may allow me or any other reader to form our own conclusions.

Grace Black:

Simple Simon, when will you and your friend Quick to get the government phones cut off learn some senses. I can see you are trying to draw Allan Palmer into a debate in order to distract him from the addressing issues like Camillo Gonsalves Saga the long and short of it; the real issues that need his attention, however it seems like Mr. Palmer is doing as he always say; ignoring ignorance. Simon that is all you are spewing ignorance, and that make you nothing short of an idiot with a computer; a slave control by a dishonest master, an addicted to deceitful association. I must comment Palmer for not wasting his breath to address your idiotic comments that you have been cutting and pasting.

Now you accuse this gentleman of lying, I will step in here and speak on Allan's part, Palmer is not one to lie not even to save his own skin. You have been hiding under the ugly disguise of anonymity from since you come onto CNN. If I recall correctly; Allan write and article suggesting that he know who you are, however he just stop short of revealing who he thinks you are, and he did so for reason which he explained, however; he give us some clues to aid in the public to understand who you are. You did not suggest he was wrong but suggest he was lying. How much more stupid can you get. Simon Anderson you are so foolish you don't know the difference from being wrong and lying. And the world trusts you with a pen. Ha ha ha ha. As country man (whoever he is) say idiot Simon Anderson, it is better for you to keep that stink box of a mouth you have there close and let people think you are a fool, than to connect it to your brain and open it and convince the entire world that you are a blasted idiotic, nonescopiotic, caca-head fool.

Now you see what you make me do. Step down into the gutter with a doatish fool like you. Strupsssss

D. Markie Spring, MBA, B.Comm:

Where is the statement from the NYDP?

I have not seen his statement, however, if anyone has access or know where I can read that statement -- please share.

To date, I have only seen and read the statement by our Ambassador to the UN and I am afraid that I cannot make a conclusion pertaining to the incident; however, this is my view according to the statement by Mr. Gonsalves.

First, Camilo Gonsalves should not be in cuffs!

Let me continue by referring back to Gonsalves' statement and I am assuming that his version is true and correct. The officer spoke badly to him and that alone should have the officer placed back in training and be disciplined. No law enforcement should speak to anyone in any unprofessional way. As I said before, even if the officer was speaking to the janitor who mops the Ambassador's office the NYDP should have respect for the janitor also.

If I were the NYDP, regardless of the fact regarding terrorism, I'd be professional; introduce myself and declare my office -- this is what police officers are taught!

Hitherto, the Ambassador responded ... " You could not be talking to me.." again the Ambassador did not do anything wrong -- But if I were the Ambassador I'd respond differently; I'd say... "Officer, I am D. Markie Spring, St Vincent and the Grenadines Ambassador to the UN, my office in this building and I have been walking here for the past 4 years, please come to verify."

Instinctively, I am sure that the officer would apologize and walk away...

Hence, I'd avoid being cuffed and have the opportunity to report the officer's unprofessional approach to the authorities. This is my take according to the statement by the Ambassador. Both parties shared some responsibility for what occurred.

Like it or leave it or you can politicize it!

Simon Anderson:
BLACK GRACE OR GRACE BLACK, why don't you shut-up, if you have no clue what is going on?

GRACE BLACK, have you read the June 3rd 2011 article Allan Palmer wrote on this forum entitled "Who is Simon Anderson?"

If not Grace, then shut your trap, Grace!

For your information Grace, LYING ALLAN PALMER wrote a lengthy 13 paragraph article in the date in question claiming to "know me" personally!

Allan Palmer said that I was born and grew-up in Dickson Village, Georgetown -- I WAS NOT!

Allan Palmer claimed that I was a school teacher. I never was!

Allan Palmer claimed that I was a Police Officer in SVG. That NEVER happened!

Allan Palmer went on to claim that I was a Police Officer in Bermuda, and even became the COMMISSIONER OF POLICE there. Nothing could be further from the truth!

Allan Palmer even mentioned that I lived in Bermuda for forty years. Totally impossible!

Allan Palmer claimed that I married a Bermudan woman. That is not so!

Alan Palmer said that he and I had several lengthy conversations when we were both Police Officers in Bermuda. That never happened, period!

I do not know Allan Palmer, personally! I know "of" him. I know he went to JAIL in St Vincent.

Allan Palmer does not know me and never met me!

In short, Allan Palmer concocted a complete LIE ON ME!

ALLAN PALMER did NOT simply tell a lie in passing...he deliberately sat down and manufactured a MASSIVE LIE out of all proportion. The mother of all lies!

So GRACE BLACK, if yuh nah know what ah gwarn, then keep out of big people business!

If you Grace Black, and Allan Palmer insist that the story is true, then PLEASE ask Markie Spring NOT to also manufacture any more lies about me!

Allan Palmer and Markie Spring say that I am two different persons because they do not know me --and simply attempt to impress the public that they know what hey are talking about. THEY DO NOT!

So when MARKIE speaks and contradicts Allan Palmer, then Black Grace, also call Markie Spring the classic liar that HE TOO IS!

COUNTRY MAN :

Simple simon THE GREAT LIAR, you are at it again. Thank God there are others who recognise how foolish you are. You are intent on creating mischeif, division, envy and hatred, and I will not allow you to get away with your idiotic ramblings.

Simple simon you are a GREAT LIAR, you say COUNTRY MAN is Allan,you say I am Spring. You simply do not know who I am, and I know exactly who you are.
Simple simon I see you continue to maintain your level of discussing people. GB is correct in the assesment of your foolish ramblings. You are simply small minded, and I am further convinced that a genetic disorder was passed on to you at birth, and your brain was affected.

Allan and Spring usually contribute to this forum by stating their opinions. You can choose to agree or disagree with them, but you continually choose to discuss their personality. What's wrong with you?

Simple simon and RUNAWAY wade connot see beyond calling patriotic Vincentians all sorts of names. RUNAWAY WADE is showing a mental decline in his old age, and the past is affecting his concience. He wants to reflect this condition onto others, but readers of CNN see clearly the intention of wade, and simon.

To Spring and Palmer, continue your writings, I read them. Time will deal with simon and wade.

Grace Black:

Simon I was speaking of that article, I read that article and your account of that article is totally out of sync with reality, in other words you are telling lies again. You think I don't know what I am speaking or writing about. Simon it is a shame that you are calling others a liar. Simon you are from a generation of liars. Your great grand father and mother are liars, your grand father and mother are liars, your father is a liar, doesn't talk about your mother; lawd. Should we expect anything better from you Mr. Simon Lie-derson? (Anderson) I personally don't. O Mr. Lie-derson, Please tell Mr. Quick shame on him to be encouraging you into your lying ways and birds of a feather sticks together. Caca-brain Simon Anderson.

Good lawd man, Caca-brain Simon stops lying for once in your life. I am sure you know you are not obligated to continue the family trade of lying. lol ha ha ha ha ha

Simon Anderson:

BLACK GRACE, OR SHOULD I SAY ALLAN PALMER, why do you continue to expose your absolute ignorance and display it so openly in public for all to see?

Maybe BLACK GRACE, (ALLAN PALMER) you actually think you could fool the reading public into thinking that you are a female and that your name is really Grace Black.

What a convenient name!

How dumb do you think we are?

Even further, how dumb could YOU be?

The readers see through you so clearly that you must actually be TRANSPARENT.

Black Grace, who are you trying to fool?

No one has heard from "Allan Palmer" on this matter (in person) but HIS SHADOW speaks on his behalf. Notice, I did not say his JUMBIE. In fact, maybe I should have used that name (description)!

So Black Grace, me say fe "wheel an come agen."

Simon Anderson:

COUNTRYMAN, WHAT DOES IT MATTER WHAT YOUR NAME IS? You are still a fool and a nincompoop.

What lies have I told? All I said is that Allan Palmer wrote a letter to CNN on June 3rd 2011 which was coated in lies from beginning to end.

Should my claim be untrue, then why has Allan Palmer never challenged me on it, and say that I am not speaking the truth?

Instead of "Allan Palmer" challenging me, "Countryman" did.

...But Allan Palmer and Countryman are one and the same person.

Allan Palmer wants to give the impression that others are supporting him and is therefore taking on various identities to deceive CNN's readers.

"Countryman," read Palmer's June 3rd 2011 letter and tell me that Palmer is not a liar! I DARE YOU!

Grace Black:

He he he he ha. Caca-brain Simon Lie-derson you are like blind eye Marcy can't see, who she catch she lash. I can imagine you in the morning when you cannot get your shower regulate to the correct temperature, you probably get out of the shower go into the basement of your building to make sure Allan Palmer is not messing with the hot water system.

Allan Palmer is Country man now he is me: the sexy Grace Black, lol. Are you sure Palmer don't be tracing you in your sleep, it seems you are so obsessed with Allan that he now qualify to be your offical boogie man.

Simon Lie-derson (Anderson), Let me remind you, you are not obligated continue in the famly tradition of generation of lie telling. Do you want to know who am I? Go onto Facebook and you will find my profile there picture and all.

Someone suggested, the editor and management of Caribbean news now made a decision to trash all the letters you submit for publication is that true? O, before you start publicly speculating or as we say here in the Black household "swinging in the dark" again trying to find out who I am, and in the same breath making an even a bigger caca-brain "A" double "S" of you self, I am not Mr. Spring. Good bye for now Caca-brain Simon Lie-derson King of three generations of Liar.

Simon Anderson:

Black Grace AKA Allan Palmer, is that the extent of your intellect?

Go right ahead and display your ignorance for all to see.

Black Grace, whenever you write, Allan Palmer is silent. Is that a coincidence? ...Or are you and Allan Palmer "in ting?"

Me thinks not.

Black Grace and Allan Palmer are one and the same JUMBIE.

Grace Black:

Caca-fo-Brain Simon Liderson, make up your mind, Am I Allan Palmer or Me and Allan Palmer in ting. lol he he he he "Black Grace, whenever you write, Allan Palmer is silent. Is that a coincidence? ...Or are you and Allan Palmer "in ting?" he he he he.

Yes Simon you Got me, I am Fire man, Fair-balance, Black Grace, Grace Black J. Thomas, Markie Spring, Countryman, Kojo, bermy vincy, Sugar etc. Is Allan Palmer. he he he he he he ahe

He he he he ha. Caca-brain Simon Lie-derson you are like blind eye Marcy can't see, who she catch she lash. I can imagine you in the morning when you cannot get your shower regulate to the correct temperature, you probably get out of the shower go into the basement of your building to make sure Allan Palmer is not messing with the hot water system.

Are you sure Palmer don't be tracing you in your sleep, it seems you are so obsessed with Allan that he now qualify to be your offical boogie man. Stop marking an even a bigger caca-brain "A" double "S" of you self.

Simon Anderson:

BLACK GRACE, why don't you learn to write the English language before you begin making a complete ASS of your self?

Why do you persist in exposing your intellectual inferiority every opportunity that presents itself.

Surely, you enjoy the mental masturbation you indulge in, but the readers observe the asinine comments you make and acknowledge your inferiority complex.

Black Grace, please do not continue making a fool of yourself in public like this.


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