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Letter: The vision to do great things will eventually bring accomplishments
Published on December 14, 2012 Email To Friend    Print Version

Dear Sir:

There has been much dialog in the last several months about the global job market, graduates acquiring credentials with limited job opportunities, particular in SVG, the ongoing question as to the purpose of an “education revolution” and the various leadership directions of governments.

Whatever may be the case, we should never detour our focus from what our parent repeatedly said “they can take away your treasures but they can never take away your education, your wisdom, skills and ambition”. One has to always remember that having the fortitude, will, potential and the vision to do great things will eventually bring accomplishments.

We are not here to look for a job but to make jobs. If you have the mindset to get an education in order to get a job, then you have already failed. One should not be ready to sit down and accept a job; they should always have the vision of developing a job or many jobs. It takes a certain type of person to create and lead a project, another type to follow it after it has been started. It also takes a certain type of person to revolt. All characteristics are necessary for the development of a community and a progressive nation.

When your parents invest in your development by training, nourishing and educating you, then it becomes your responsibility to make a living for yourself. The challenges of moving forward are to ask yourself a twofold question as to: how your education would benefit you and your community and how do you make your education functional? Be reminded that your education is something that is saleable to the community and not just an education of decorated credentials.

Can one do economics without an imagination? In the lecture room, as a teacher, his/her mandate is to bring to the forefront what’s in the book. However, as a teacher, you have to present in such a way that people can see how they can use what you are saying to make a better life. A historian knows the past but how does he/she apply the history to the future?

Everybody is worried about the future and everybody is looking for leaders with a vision. The question is, if you have a spying-glass and I do not have one, who can tell the better future? What is important is giving something to someone so that they can move on with their life. The “Education Revolution”, if utilized in the proper form, provides you that opportunity in which you have something to stand on, a bridge on which you can pass over. Education is the development of skills by which one can make a living.

Having grown up during the sixties in a Windward village of SVG, being aware of the class differences stemmed from the remnant of colonialism and the disadvantages to further education, brings me much admiration for the “education revolution initiative”. What has become apparent is the overtone of comments that sparked, following my point-of-view of November 30, 2012 in Caribbean News Now, subject “SVG Forever Forward Never Backward.”

Here is a comment that illustrates the obstacle to the development of a people:

“Someone sent me the ‘SVG forever forward, never backward’ article and asked ‘What does this article say?’ I had not read it. After scanning it, I am afraid that I still cannot answer the question!

“Coincidentally, I have not read Dr Adrian Fraser's article either. He supposedly was discussing some issues regarding another of our BGS classmates, Dr Ralph Gonsalves.

“I shall never comment on any of their positions, since (1) as very intelligent and learned classmates, I am positive that they have rendered logical, rational and understandable points of view, and (2), as my grandmother used to say, ‘stay out of other people business.’”

Well, am I ever fortunate that I am not one of those “BGS (Boys Grammar School) classmates”? The risk that comes with being a community advocate for nine years brings very little surprises, as even then I do not look at it negatively. I praise those individuals for giving their views or when you so choose to share your thoughts on any issues. But when certain persons who thought that they were in the top of society seem to have now been challenged by others who now have what they thought they alone had, their motive is to frustrate progress.

As quoted by Dr Fraser in his Searchlight opinion column of December 7, 2012: “This obviously describes a particular mindset and says a lot.”

Elma Gabriel
Community Advocate (Toronto)
 
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Peter:

ELMA, can you throw any light on the fact that GONSALVES has never set foot on Canadian soil since he was charged with a sexual matter by a Canadian lady attorney here in SVG.

Can you throw any light on the Canadian Vincentian called Morgan who was issued a Vincentian Diplomatic passport, was never an employee of SVG government or a diplomat. He was caught at London airport carrying a kilo of cocaine, using the diplomatic passport for entry.

Did you here about the million US dollars in cash that was divided up by top ULP members and families. Money that the police and appropriate authorities have failed to investigate or act on.

Do you know as part of the education revolution here in SVG, children go to school hungry without breakfast and then beg in Kingstown for food money and bus fare home money.

Parents can't feed their children, school books cost hundreds of dollars a term and school uniforms are expensive. No one working in families no income, no money.

ELMA THESE ARE FACTS

By your members supporting this Marxist regime, they are supporting this kind of treatment of the people and their children.

Do you and your Toronto members care or worry about such situations? or do you just accept such matters and move on in support of this regime?

Lenford O'Garro:

It is nice to talk about starting a business but the reality is new college graduates are force to start their own business because they cannot find jobs. The rate was about 1 in 5 new college graduates in the US starting their own business a year or two ago. Elma’s point about starting a business is much more challenging in SVG.

Firstly, SVG has neither the size nor the economy as the US do. Therefore, I do not see the rates of new college graduates starting their own business in SVG being larger than in the US.

Secondly, many of these newly college graduates have student loans they have to repay in this so-called education revolution. Many when to university and graduate with degrees in education administration. So, unless they are planning to start their own schools, they are depending on teaching in the government service.

Thirdly, where are they going to get the capital or the seed money to start the business? Which Bank or Credit Union in SVG is willing to put forward the money, to give someone with no collateral and no history of running or owning a business a loan to start a business?

In the US, research has shown that many new business fail due to lack of capital (human and financial). Therefore, the odds are very long for many new college graduates. Also, the majority of new business fail within several years.

With well established businesses failing and or leaving the shores of SVG, which bank or credit union is willing to finance a start up business with no collateral or no experience? Please take into consideration that SVG has gone through four straight years of negative or no growth to the economy. A fifth straight years of negative or no growth to the economy is upon SVG.

Really! Elma! Start a business in SVG?

Vin Samuel:

Elma Gabriel is "Right On The Money"

Dear Pouie:

As you know, I am with you on many fronts. Your writings are often quite relevant and timely with reference to conditions in our homeland, SVG. But in this instance your response to Elma Gabriel's viewpoint on the Education Revolution comes across as quite myopic. Here is why:

1. Elma Gabriel's (who I have not met) premise (allow me to paraphrase) that getting an education just to get a job is not the best use of an "education" is quite incisive. It cuts to the heart of our economic problem in SVG: Too many people are getting educated to either go back to SVG and work with the government or to go/stay abroad as you and I did to employ the skills that we attained through the education. This brings quite limited benefits to SVG.

2. Starting a private business anywhere can be a daunting but not overwhelming initiative: Many poorly educated persons in SVG are earning their living from their small business (mostly buying and selling or farming and trafficking).

My own grandmother, the late Little Miss Graham was a seamstress. She used part of the money she earned from her trade to invest in the purchasing of herbs and other spices to resell to customers up and down the windward coast of SVG. At that time, the major employer was the Hadley estates in our area. Mama, a black Carib, detested the cfolonial exploiters and was quite successful in following the experience of her brothers as independent business owners. And she was so enamored with education that she prepared me for school at a very early age which resulted in me skipping almost every other grade/standard/class in elementary school. Now, you will say "well in today's world you cannot expect "University Grads to engage in what we used to call "Turning Hand"! Yet, the longest mile starts with a single step. But while there are mitigitaging conditions against starting businesses, you must admit that as a people we need to step up to the plate and do more to start businesses and create jobs in SVG. And who is better to do that than the University graduates? Remember two Vincy Brothers called J.P and J.L Eustace? They took the initiative to establish the Emmanuel High Schools and The Intermediate High School that helped solve the problem of insufficient secondary schools for the poor of St. Vincent. You can find the whole story in: The Life and Times of John Parmenas Eustace, By Vin Samuel - available on Amazon.com.

The story is told about Leon Hess: In his youth, Hess's parents were quite poor. The young Leon Hess discovered that when the trains delivered coal to the coal yards some coal used to fall off along the tracks. He thought that he could salvage that coal and sell them to homeowners at a discount for heating their homes in the New York winter. He started off with a bucket and later bought a wheel barrow with his earnings. Eventually, Leon Hess got the education and experience to start a company that came to be known as Amerada Hess, the east coast oil and gas giant, formerly the owner of the largest oil refinery in the eastern United States at St. Croix, USVI. Among his other ventures was the ownership of the New York Jets, And Leon Hess, the original coal scavenger died as a multi billionaire.

3. There are many economic problems in SVG as you, Peter and others are quick to point out. However, the greatest problem that we have is a lack of creativity and vision to solve those problems through initiatives to start and manage private businesses. In fact, if there is anything to critize the "Education Revolution" about it is perhaps that it does not go far enough to stimulate vibrant debate and development of private enterprise in SVG. But that is not a burden that the Comrade (just an acquaintance)and the ULP (not a member)should carry alone. We are all responsible for the future development of our nation.

4. People who want to make money while helping to develop SVG should seriously research our economic problems and take the initiative to solve those problems through private enterprise, rather than political connections.

5. The Cussings and Commess among the so-called Grammar School elites leads us nowhere. It results in bad feelings and no real benefits to the country.

Dear Vincy Pouie, I know that you are well-qualified in your field, quite intellectualy capable and a Vincy patriot by any standard. Let's resolve to see possibilities rather than doom as we seek to ameliorate the problems of our Homeland, The Blessed Hairouna.

And to Elma Gabriel: I love your style and your sound reasoning ... for whatever that might mean. Everyone can see that Peter has an axe to grind where the Comrade and the ULP is concerned ... yet he is not all bad, he provides good information at times. However, It takes voices of reason such as yours and Ian Francis on this site to balance the equation.

Have a blessed Christmas up there in beautiful, cold Canada.

Your compatriot,

Vinci Vin

Peter:

VINCY VIN, some would think what you write makes a lot of sense, but it gloss's over the impossibility of the current situation. Not all I must add, created by the Worlds outside forces. Much of our woes are created by this Marxist administration.

I do not hate GONSALVES, fortunately I hate no one. What I hate is the system and the style and the manners and behavior of the man, which at the very least at times can be rude and downright disgusting. Worse still I believe he has infested the people with spite and malice, turned village against village, area against area, relatives against relatives, family against family. Teaching people to hate your neighbor, instead of love your neighbor. Dividing the Vincentian people right down the middle, creating a them and us society. Telling his supporters to own the jobs, own everything with the protection from minor offences by putting ’I AM LABOUR’ stickers on their cars. Providing work for ULP, and a stay at home policy for NDP, a divided state along lines of shear evil.

Is this somewhere you would invest.

I believe that the GONSALVES doctrine is a killer for any new business. I know of two European companies that decided not to invest here due to the Gonsalves politics. Making a lost opportunity for about 200 people in the Georgetown area.

Is this somewhere you would invest.

In the past eleven years no new industry has come to SVG. Involving SVG with states such as North Korea, Iran, the former Iraq, Venezuela, Cuba, nice for his indoctrinated mind, but a killer for investment. The only business’s that have been opened by locals are hundreds of cooked food outlets, mainly mobile or sold from cars and stalls. So many in fact, that most of them do not earn a living. Instead they take up valuable car park spaces and cause havoc and congestion all over the town.

Is this somewhere you would invest.

Kingstown is so rat infested its a serious health risk to touch any surface. Even to eat fruit that has been on a stall all night may well be contaminated. The open drains in Kingstown are so contaminated with food debri and waste overflow from restaurants, that there is a very real possibility of an outbreak of cholera, and gastroenteritis. As well as these, pathogens in these drains can cause illness such as Hepatitis A and E. coli 0157 which can also cause serious, potentially life threatening, illnesses. I am sure that if those drains are tested the danger is already lurking there. In fact if you have ever been to parts of India where you can smell disease, I can smell it in Kingstown.

Is this somewhere you would invest.

Its all very well using the education card in capturing the minds of the people. A massive growth in education has taken place world wide. The difference is that it is a traditional Marxist thing to use the education card to fool the ignorant people. Like using the airport card to claim the minds of the same people, its a repeat of the Maurice Bishop era, with the Cubans becoming more dominant in SVG.

Is this somewhere you would invest.

We have a prime minister who told us he is here to finish the work of Maurice Bishop.

Is this somewhere you would invest.

This administration joined us into ALBA, which is riddled with the loony left and want to be dictators. Some selling uranium to Iran, and welcoming the Iranian Revolutionary Guard onto their soil.

Is this somewhere you would invest.

The hospital is more frequently without drugs and dressings, than with them. You stand more chance of death than living if you have to enter the hospital with any semi serious illness. Most of the scanning and X-ray equipment only works spasmodically.

Is this somewhere you would invest.

Many of the roads are in such a bad condition, some are unusable by vehicular traffic. Even the ‘New Windward Highway’ is being neglected to such a degree, that is only by luck that a motorcyclist a day doesn’t die after hitting some of the deep craters.

Is this somewhere you would invest.

Today youngsters are being schooled, but not taught a trade. Plumbers, mechanics, engineers, carpenters, they are all critical to the running of our country, no one is seriously training them, no on the job training anymore.

Is this somewhere you would invest.

Its all very well saying our young people should start up their own business. What bank is going to lend money to a young person without any commercial knowledge or a trade.

All you people make me sick, sitting there in the Diaspora, throwing out ideas, without any idea of what is really going on in St. Vincent and the Grenadines. You think you know but you don't, you have to live it to know it.

Elma I am sure you believe you know, but you have no idea. You listen to the crap spouted by visiting ULP people, sent to fool you, and unfortunatly believe them.

Peter:

Start a business on the moon, well there would be more chance of success.

Lenford O'Garro:

Dear Vinci Vin,

Don’t get me wrong! But I have two questions for you and Elma.

1. Would either of you start a business in SVG today?

2. What’s stopping either of you from start a business in SVG today?

There is a saying, talk is cheap; so put your money where your mouth lay. Do remember, for every one successful story of someone starting a business and making it profitable; there are hundreds, if not thousands who failed. If it was that easy to do and maintain, everyone would be in business for themselves or millionaires.

As “De Man Age” (Mr Age) said, “Ah Reality Me Ah Deal With!” I would say it again, it’s nice to talk about starting a business. But where are you going to get the money from to start that business as a new graduate in SVG? Many (if not most) of these new grads have to repay their student loans. Which Bank or Credit Union in SVG is willing to put up the funds for them to start a business?

I have pointed out before, this government cannot threaten to close down businesses that did not or were perceived as not supporting them in the general elections then somehow expect private businesses to invest or expand in SVG. Please give “Bigger Biggs” a call, his business did employed several Vincentians. It has been closed for over a year. “Bigger” or any other Vincentian for that matter, should have the rights to support any political party they choose to support, discuss ills in the Vincentian Society, or the governance of SVG, without fear of victimization.

Currently, there are more people selling along the streets than those buying in SVG. Things hard in SVG and the people are bawling. As “De Foe” said in his 2012 calypso, “Woodlice In Me Pocket,” so much so that this Christmas, “Santa Brokes!”

John:

Gentlemen,

It has been a while since i have been on this forum had been busy with other things and i realise you bitter people are still around. I must say "even a broken clock is right twice a day" but you guys never seems to get it right. You take everything and turn it into policitics without encouraging people to be responsible for their own actions.

The write of the article brought out some points which i think deserve to be mentioned again:

"When your parents invest in your development by training, nourishing and educating you, then it becomes your responsibility to make a living for yourself."

What is important is giving something to someone so that they can move on with their life. The “Education Revolution”, if utilized in the proper form, provides you that opportunity in which you have something to stand on, a bridge on which you can pass over. Education is the development of skills by which one can make a living.

What Peter and others on this forum arent addressing is the countless persons who on a yearly basis go off to University to study areas which are not applicable to our society either because it may be a easy subject to pass or the name just sounds good.

I am not an advocate of telling persons what subject areas to pursue studies in but there should be a thought process behind.

It marvels about the amount young people in SVG with a Bachelors in Psychology, International Relations, Chemical Engineering even lawyers. I honestly think we have more lawyers than cases. Where are we or how can we employ all these people? But when they come back home and get employed because they dont have a "Easily Marketeable Skill" then we jump up and say the government not doing anything.

We know Peter has a political axe to grind so we expect nothing better.

Lenford, the government once had a program where they were giving Small business loans Maximum $15000 to start a business or to support a business idea. Not much people took up on it becuase they didnt want to do the hard involved (Attending a 2 week workshop). You mentioned again which lending institution will lend this money? You go and ask the lending institutions, how many persons came with grand ideas which on paper looked like a profitable business venture which ultimately failed because of mis-management.

You grumpy old men who once was on a gravy train under a previous regime and now a new regime is in place you cant get all the sweetheart deals you use to get to stay afloat need to "relax alyo self when the day come".

John

Vin Samuel:

Hi Pouie & Peter:

You asked: would you (Vin) start a business in SVG?

My answer: Perhaps

If I were to start a business in SVG, what biusiness opportunities would I consider:

1. Recreation for children and youths: Throughout SVG and particularly in the rural villages there are no organized venue where parents of young children and youths can take their children for a fun-filled time of play and recreation.

2. Specialty farming: too much emphasis in SVG is placed on low-priced bulk export products such as bananas, cocoa and dasheen. I would consider the production of the higher-priced, organically produced crops such as brocolli, spinach, lettuce, herbs and seasonings - parsley, thyme, etc

3. Nuts and fruits: have you seen the prices for almonds and pistachios lately?

4.Aqualture ---

5. Poultry and small ruminants --- The present Agriculture Minister Caesar is making some good moves

My primary goal would be to supply the demand for nutritional and healthy foods for the domestic market.

Lets consider possibilities .......

Best regards,

Vinci Vin

Lenford O'Garro:

So, what you are saying/implying John is that the so-called “Education Revolution”, was ill-conceived and implemented. Because why would the government allowed so many people to go and study in areas not need in the country (Psychology, International Relations, Chemical Engineering and law). Are there guidance/academics counselors in the high schools or the community college? Who are helping these students in career guidance? It is the failure of the school system (aka the government).

But it is not surprising, the same thing is seen with the teachers who are going to university and study. The country is in desperate need of teachers in math and science however, 70 to 80 percent of those that go and study get degrees in education administration (seems like everyone wants to be a principal). Who to blame for this nonsense? Me? Or the government? As I said before, ill-conceived and implemented.

John, are you also saying/implying that there are jobs in SVG but the people are not qualified for those jobs?

John, are you telling me that in SVG people will spend hours in line for $150 to $200 of poor relief. But refuse to attend a 2 week workshop, where they can get up to $15000 to start a business or to support a business idea. Who fault is that again? Have the government put anything in place or had anything in place besides the 2 week workshop? Are there business incubators setup in the country to help people develop and implement small business ideas? Or was it here is $15000 and you are on your own?

What is the penalty? Family members or their house and land that they put down as collateral? Ideas fails not only because of mismanagement. Other reasons why ideas fails are it was a bad project to begin with, the project was poorly design and implemented, the project was way ahead of it’s time and many other circumstances that can cause a project to fail.

So John, because I am being critical about the governance of SVG, somehow I was on a previous government gravy train? Well, it is obvious you have no idea what you are talking about.


Dear Vinci Vin,
My brother, you do know that “perhaps” is a cop-out! But I will let it slide.

This is the same government that claimed agriculture is dead and a thing of the past. Then proceeded to takeaway prime agricultural lands from farmers. Furthermore, the banana industry was destroy by the government failure to spray bananas. Now this government is trying to hang their hats on a cocoa project brought forward by the opposition platform, which this government rejected as colonialism and a form of slavery. Go figure!

As I have said on many occasions, agriculture must be an essential element in a wellness program. Measures must be put in place for access to lower cost healthy foods that would help people to eat better. VAT (Value Added Tax) should be removed from all locally grown fruits and vegetables. It will go very far if they bring back the 1970’s slogan and policy, “Back to the Land”! Add also, Grow Local, Buy Local! A wellness program must include agriculture and feeding yourself. Not taking away prime agricultural lands and saying agriculture is dead.

It bedeviled me that a third world country government will get money from the European Union (EU) for agricultural diversity program and return millions to the EU unspent. By the way Vin, the Rasta Brethrens at Buccament were into some of the types of small farming actives you are advocating here.

What has happened to the cassava, arrowroot and dasheen projects? They have all failed. The fisheries project in Owia failed, the building is closed. Have the government met the EU fish exports? The answer is a big fat NO!

Minister Caesar was sitting there when his government proceeded to destroy agriculture. Where was Minister Caesar and these projects before they destroyed agriculture? Now that they have destroyed agriculture, they want credit for appearing to doing something for agriculture?

Vin, I have consider the possibilities over and over, and SVG should have been better-off today!

Peace and justice and Happy Holidays

Peter:

HI VIN

"If I were to start a business in SVG, what business opportunities would I consider":

1. Recreation for children and youths: Throughout SVG and particularly in the rural villages there are no organized venue where parents of young children and youths can take their children for a fun-filled time of play and recreation.
VIN HOW WOULD YOU MAKE THIS A BUSINESS. MOST OF THE PEOPLE HAVE NO MONEY TO SPEND ON THEIR CHILDRENS FOOD. HOW CAN THEY SPEND MONEY ON PLAY AND RECREATION.

2. Specialty farming: too much emphasis in SVG is placed on low-priced bulk export products such as bananas, cocoa and dasheen. I would consider the production of the higher-priced, organically produced crops such as brocolli, spinach, lettuce, herbs and seasonings - parsley, thyme, etc
DO YOU UNDERSTAND VIN THAT ST.VINCENT IS AN EXTREMLY DIFICULT PLACE TO GROW THINGS BECAUSE OF A PARTICULARLY TYPE OF NEMOTODE INFESTATION. WE HAVE VERY FERTILE SOIL BUT ITS VERY DIFFICULT TO GROW MOST CROPS WITHOUT TREATMENT WITH POWERFUL INSECTECIDES.
BANANAS, TANYA, DACHINE, YAMS, VINE SPINACH AND A FEW OTHER ITEMS GROW WITHOUT BEING AFFECTED BY NEMATODES.
OTHER CROPS SUCH AS NUTS, COFFEE, COCOA SND SOME TYPES OF FRUITS WILL NOT PRODUCE AN INCOME FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS AFTER PLANTING.

3. Nuts and fruits: have you seen the prices for almonds and pistachios lately?
YES CERTAIN NUTS ARE EXPENSIVE. ARE YOU AWARE THAT EACH PISTACHIO FRUIT ONLY PRODUCES ONE NUT OR KERNAL. THE PRODUCTION PROCEDURE IS LONG AND DRAWN OUT, YOU ARE ON A LOSER.

4.Aqualture ---
THERE IS A VERY WELL ESTABLISHED AQUACULTURIST IN BARBADOS, WHEN I TALKED WITH HIM TWO YEARS AGO, HE TOLD ME JUST HOW DIFFICULT IT WAS EVEN FOR AN EXPERT. INITIALLY AND FOR SEVERAL YEARS HE MADE HUGE LOSS'S, BUT BEING WEALTHY COULD STAND THE LOSS'S.

5. Poultry and small ruminants --- The present Agriculture Minister Caesar is making some good moves.
WE WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO COMPETE WITH THE US CHICKEN PRODUCTION AND PRICES, THEY PRODUCE THE FEED NEXT DOOR TO WHERE THE REAR THE CHICKENS. WE CANNOT EVEN START TO PRODUCE CHICKEN FEED FROM HOME GROWN GRAIN.
IT WILL NEVER BE MORE THAN A COTTAGE INDUSTRY HERE.
AS FOR SHEEP AND GOATS, THERE ARE STILL MORE STOLEN THAN EATEN OR SOLD BY THE BREEDERS AND OWNERS.

My primary goal would be to supply the demand for nutritional and healthy foods for the domestic market.
NO BANK WILL FUND YOUR DREAM, I HOPE YOU HAVE DEEP POCKETS AND ARE WILLING TO LOSE YOUR SHIRT.

Lets consider possibilities .......
I HAVE, AND YOUR IDEAS ARE HEREWITH REJECTED.

SORRY VIN BUT YOUR BUSINESS PLAN WOULD NOT BE ACCEPTED BY THIS DRAGON.

STEVE_HUGGINS:

COME AGAIN, Vincy VIN?

You have submitted some suggestions, and they have been ably, heavily, critiqued.

The ball is in your Vincy court again.

I love this type of discussion. For sure, some of our SVG PRINCIPLES OF BUSINESS students would be enabled to salvage some still worthwhile aspects of these tentative solutions, and come up with an improved COTTAGE INDUSTRIES unit, not to mention Career/vocation insights. The regional texts do not do justice to this component, and certainly are near totally ignorant of the actual VINCENTIAN viewpoint and 'industrial' experience.

SVG, and the wider OECS, sorely needs this trend of practical discourse.

I thank CNN, too, in facilitating this redeeming exchange. No harm done. This is the right road to learning how to come up wth sensitive, constructive, wholesome means to help our SVG survive the desperate milieu extant.

Vin Samuel:

Gentlemen:

I could answer your comments individually. However, I am too old to fall for the "I dare you" trap and it is not practical for me to go into such details except to say:

1. These are tentative ideas that are freely given subject to research and analysis by interested persons ... hence the perhaps ... and might consider

2. With respect to the business of agriculture, I can safely say that I have some practical and academic expertise in the production, management, marketing, economics, laws, business formation, etc in both SVG and elsewhere. There are many opportunities for agricultural redevelopment in SVG. However, new techniques, human resources (the university grads and others), etc must be employed.

On starting businesses around the fun and games concept, Peter have you heard about Ronald McDonald and the Kids Meal; or Chucky Cheese? You do not have to buy a Mickey D franchise to develop the concept in SVG. In fact, you could do better than McDonalds by by combining the fun and games with healthy meals that use locally grown organically-grown fruits and vegetables, seafood and other food products.
As Palladin would say: "Have Ideas, Will Travel".

Best regards,

Vinci Vin

Peter:

VIN, you wrote:

With respect to the business of agriculture, I can safely say that I have some practical and academic expertise in the production, management, marketing, economics, laws, business formation, etc in both SVG and elsewhere. There are many opportunities for agricultural redevelopment in SVG. However, new techniques, human resources (the university grads and others), etc must be employed.
VIN, GRADUATES CANNOT CREATE UP TO 500 BUSINESS'S EVERY YEAR. WE MUST ALLOW OUR GRADUATES TO GO ELSEWHERE, OR STOP HAVING CHILDREN.

SORRY VIN, I STILL CONSIDER YOUR IDEAS AND SELF HAILED ATTRIBUTES AS BLIGHTED.

WE WILL NEVER HAVE THE FINANCE OR DECENT FLAT LAND TO ESTABLISH AGRICULTURE IN A PROFITABLE WAY. OUR LIMITED CROP SELECTION TO SUIT OUR SOIL CONDITIONS IS ALSO A HUGE PROBLEM.

ALL OUR FLAT AGRICULURAL LAND HAS BEEN USED BY THE GOVERNMENT, BELLISLE, ARGYLE, BUCCAMENT.

THE FARMERS HAVE BEEN SACRIFICED FOR TOURISM. ONLY PROBLEM IS, SAINT VINCENT ISLAND WILL NEVER BE A TOURIST DESTINATION.

REMEMBER GONSALVES COUSIN, THE UNELECTED, UNELECTABLE, SENATOR JULIAN FRANCIS SAID, "AGRICULTURE IS FINISHED ITS NOW TIME FOR TOURISM". I DOUBT THAT HE WOULD OF SAID SUCH A THING UNLESS IT IS PART OF THE GONSALVES POLICY.

You wrote:
"On starting businesses around the fun and games concept, Peter have you heard about Ronald McDonald and the Kids Meal; or Chucky Cheese? You do not have to buy a Mickey D franchise to develop the concept in SVG. In fact, you could do better than McDonalds by by combining the fun and games with healthy meals that use locally grown organically-grown fruits and vegetables, seafood and other food products.
As Palladin would say: "Have Ideas, Will Travel".

VIN. PALLUDIN SAID “HAVE GUN WILL TRAVEL” THAT WAS THE THEME OF THE SHOW.

VIN, I WILL NOT EVEN BOTHER TO REPLY TO THE ABOVE, ITS SO RIDICULOUS. I HOPE YOUR NOT EMPLOYED BY ANYONE IN A CAPACITY OF DECISION.

YOUR EMBARRASSING ME, YOUR EMBARRASSING THE READERS, YOUR EMBARRASSING YOURSELF, HOPEFULLY NOT AN EMPLOYER OR PARTNER.

Vin Samuel:

Peter:

You are so full of humour, too easily embarrassed, and too literal of thought. What SVG needs are leaders who see vibrant farms where none exist today (and the desert shall blossom as a Rose"; see profitable private businesses rising out of the despair of the status quo; see a force of young educated Vincentian men and women joining hands and intellect with older experienced Vincentians to transform a business/economic system with bold ideas, skills and initiatives (Think of many Uncle Metros). And see the transformation of Vincentian society with "Can Do" ideas rather than as you say " WE WILL NEVER HAVE THE FINANCE OR DECENT FLAT LAND TO ESTABLISH AGRICULTURE IN A PROFITABLE WAY. OUR LIMITED CROP SELECTION TO SUIT OUR SOIL CONDITIONS IS ALSO A HUGE PROBLEM."

How pathetic can you get? Are you dismissing an entire nation as worthless and without hope for the future?

Or is it your belief that some large trans-national corporation should come to SVG to enslave the poor natives under the direction of their all-knowing board of directors and be the Saviour of Hairouna?

This is a new age Peter. We have seen how your large multinational corporations operate. We have seen how Marxism/Socialism have failed. But we have also experienced the brutality of modern day capitalism and the adulteration of "democracy" by the elites and the powerful capitalist CEOs.

So what do we have left? Let's hear your solution Peter. I promise you that I will not be embarrassed and I do not believe in guns. Hence I paraphrase Palladin: "Have Ideas Will Travel" .

Vinci Vin


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